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Mi conversacion con Chris Cabrera, CEO de Xactly.

Siempre he sido admirador de la empresa, Xactly, proveedor de una solución SaaS (Software as a Service) para administrar los planes de compensación de los vendedores de una empresa.  Por esto, me agrado mucho cuando el CEO de la empresa, Christopher Cabrera, acepto mi invitación para una entrevista. Sin embargo, yo no estaba preparado para el dato que me dio que su padre, Eduardo Cabrera Micolta, nació en Cali, Colombia y emigro a EEUU antes de su nacimiento.

Además, Chris ve con muy buenos ojos al mercado de América Latina para la adopción de su software. Como lo menciona él, hay una oportunidad para que las empresas de la región adopten una herramienta por una fracción del costo que se conseguía anteriormente y que promete grandes retornos de inversión. Aunque la fuerza de ventas de muchas empresas maneja millones de dólares en ingresos para sus compañías, la mayoría de las veces se calculan sus comisiones con hojas de cálculo perdiendo la oportunidad de motivar mejor y influir mas en el comportamiento de este importante componente laboral.

Hace unos años, Chris era vendedor para una empresa que vendía este software en millones de dólares cuando vio el potencial de ofrecer dicho software como un servicio (SaaS).  Hoy en día, los clientes pueden obtener la misma o mejor funcionalidad por miles de dólares (uno o dos órdenes de magnitud menor).  No solo estamos hablando del precio de la licencia sino también los costos de implantación ya que el software de Xactly puede estar configurado y en producción en pocos días o pocas semanas comparadas con muchos meses (lo que era común en su anterior empresa).

La empresa ha recibido US $60M en fondeo, tiene más de 250 clientes en casi cada continente con 90% de estos usando más de una divisa. El software, Xactly Incent, está disponible en 18 lenguajes incluyendo español.  Es difícil subestimar la ventaja que una empresa adquiere (frente a sus competidores) con la habilidad de motivar más a su fuerza de ventas.  Adicionalmente, cambiar el comportamiento de sus vendedores (Ej., promocionar un nuevo producto más rentable) puede ser difícil.  Por esto, Xactly Incent permite ajustes finos en compensación para la fuerza de ventas dependiendo de nuevos comportamientos buscados.

Uno de los retos más grandes relacionado con la fuerza de ventas es asegurar que la supervisión de la misma se haga con eficacia e incrementa la motivación en vez de sacarle el aire. Muchos directores y directoras de ventas cuentan con información muy limitada (y no abierta) para liderar a sus fuerzas de ventas.  Este es una de las características más fuertes de Xactly Incent ya que la información se torna más transparente y precisa lo cual agiliza de gran manera este esfuerzo.

La empresa cuenta con Salesforce.com como cliente y Chris cuenta que dicha empresa aprovecha al máximo los beneficios de su software.  Adicionalmente, Xactly Incent está integrada con Salesforce.com entre otros.  Cuando le pregunte a Chris las razones por las cuales una empresa en América Latina debería implantar dicho software, me respondió que dicha empresa va obtener los beneficios antes descritos antes que sus competidores, a una fracción de costo que anteriormente era posible, con una implantación muchas veces más rápida y, finalmente, apalancándose en todos los aprendizajes y mejores prácticas obtenidos.

Como mencione al comienzo, hace rato he sido “fan” de lo que ofrece Xactly y otras empresas que se enfocan en el reto más grande para las organizaciones en el futuro: incrementar la productividad de su capital humano (y motivarlos).  El hecho que este innovador digital tenga descendencia Latina es un plus adicional.

My interview with Joe Payne, CEO of Eloqua, offering SaaS based Marketing Automation.

The days of multimillion-dollar CRM projects being closed left and right by the likes of Siebel have given way to thousands of dollars for CRM and Sales force Automation systems offered by Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) vendors.  Nevertheless, Marketing and Sales have many more processes that can benefit from automation and Eloqua and its CEO, Joe Payne, offer a compelling solution to improve Marketing processes and align them (at least technologically) more with Sales.

Eloqua has been innovating in the Marketing Automation space for the last 10 years and thanks to their SaaS model can also incorporate best practice business processes into their offerings at a fraction of what it would have cost to deliver this value only a few years ago.  I actually used to work for SAS Institute and saw first hand how costly deploying a top of the line on premises solution can be and how long such an application can take to start producing results.  I’ve always been curious about the “Eloqua” name and Joe cleared that up for me when he mentioned that the URL for the word “eloquent” was already taken, hence, “Eloqua” was born.

Though not as well known as CRM, Marketing Automation is excellent for reading prospects’ digital body language. In other words, as prospects click through the web and on company websites, they leave a trail of valuable information of which companies rarely avail themselves to provide users with personalized experiences.  A system such as that offered by Eloqua can automate the process whereby your company builds a relationship with that prospect in order to convert them to a qualified lead and, then, customer.

This market has a long way to go and Joe mentioned that the space is probably only about 4% penetrated.  As companies continue to migrate more of their Sales and Marketing budgets to the web, the possibility to achieve greater measurability of their efforts and actually have that measurability drive their actions, will be quite compelling.  The current global financial situation will only accelerate this trend. It’s so great to talk with innovative leaders like Joe, because now, more than ever, they’re excited about the global opportunity. One thing that surprised me is that Joe does speak a little Spanish though he mentioned that his children are better at it than he is.

Eloqua helps large companies as well as smaller ones with half its customers generating less than US $50M in yearly sales.  Even smaller companies can work with Eloqua partners called Marketing Services Partners that not only take care of the technical intricacies of Marketing Automation, but can also help companies create, store and distribute one of their most valuable new assets: digital content.

Eloqua customers include companies such as VMWare, Adobe, Omniture (now part of Adobe) and Rosetta Stone.  In the B2C space, the company works with the Miami Heat basketball team as well as ADP among others.  The fact that Omniture was a client impressed me since Omniture is known for their own measurement software.  Nevertheless, this brought home the fact that Marketing Automation integrates a number of different technologies with one end result:  measurable impact. To this point, Joe mentioned a hospitality customer which deployed Eloqua and achieved a US $1M improvement in their Sales and Marketing efforts in a relatively short period of time.

In Latin America, I think there is an excellent opportunity for Marketing Service Partners that already have a stable of clients to start offering this type of (outsourced) service.  Integrating the offering within a complete package makes customer education an easier proposition and will provide benefits in the form of: 1) Better prioritization of leads and 2) The ability to nurture prospects into qualified leads.

Although large companies are the most obvious candidates for such a solution, medium size business in Latin America that decide to adopt these best practices in Sales and Marketing (complemented with some consulting), will have obvious competitive advantages in the marketplace.   Thanks to the maturation of the SaaS model, I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before these types of services start to proliferate in the region.

My conversation with Jeffrey Eisenberg, co-author of the book, Call to Action

When I spoke with Jeff Eisenberg several days ago, I was prepared to get some valuable insights into how to effectively use the Internet to increase conversions and sales.   I was, nonetheless, incredibly impressed by how succinctly he was able to break down key concepts (nothing impresses me more than the ability to simplify the seemingly complicated).  Nevertheless, the I was completely flabbergasted by the fact that he had been to Latin America many times (20 times to Colombia), his Latin American heritage (his parents are from Argentina) and his fluency in Spanish.

Jeff and his brother, Brian, are well-known experts, speakers, consultants and authors within the online sales/marketing industry and from my conversation with Jeff, it’s obvious that they intimately understand Latin America (more on this a little later).   Given the fact that Latin America is at an inflection point in terms of growth in online marketing and ecommerce, having access to world-renowned experts in the field who not only know the language, but also, the culture, should be viewed as a gift from the heavens.  Forgive the hyperbole, but Latin America is one of the fastest growing regions in the world (in some cases, the fastest) in terms of Internet adoption with over 100M users and a growth of over 30% and it’s time that companies in the region seek out the top experts in the field to take advantage of the fact that most of their customers are active online.

The reason that Jeff is so knowledgeable about the region is that his previous job within the financial industry brought him many times to Latin America on business.  Also, his parents immigrated to the states from Buenos Aires in 1962 and since Spanish was spoken at home (as in my case), he and his brother are completely fluent.  Given this fact and the business context described above, I’m surprised that Latin American firms haven’t contacted him for consulting and speaking engagements in order to leverage the knowledge and experience that he brings after working with clients such as NBC Universal, Overstock.com, Dell and Volvo.

Talking  about Colombia, I mentioned that, though this country is a leading technology adopter with more users on Facebook than any other Latin American country, I’ve only seen organizations with some exceptions take initial steps at developing and executing online strategies.  I also mentioned that eCommerce still has quite a ways to go.  Jeff’s answered this observation with a question: “Are we [Colombian companies] waiting for countries such as Argentina, Mexico or the US to take our market?”  In my view, that is most definitely the question to ask and this scenario will, indeed, occur if local companies don’t awaken to the opportunity.

With respect to eCommerce, Jeff mentioned that the key catalyst for increasing activity in this area will most probably come from new mobile initiatives down the road.  Nevertheless, regardless of what happens on the eCommerce front, there is a plethora of options that Latin American organizations have available to them to interact with their customers.  Basic websites were fine to start off with, but, asJeff mentioned, when a customer clicks on a hyperlink, that customer is asking a question such as “How much does this cost?”  If a company’s website answers that question with something like “We’re great,” the conversation has little chance of going further and a key conversion opportunity has been lost.  In the current economic environment, wasting these types of opportunities is becoming an unaffordable luxury.

More than anything, according to Jeff, digital technologies are forcing more and more transparency on all types of organizations and this new environment can be scary.  In order to succeed, organizations need to be authentic and offer real and tangible differentiators. Initiatives such as reputation management, online reviews and participating in online conversations with prospects and customers can yield substantial results.

Either way you look at it, Latin America is at a cross roads.  Everyday companies are feeling more competitive pressures from outside their country’s borders, their prospective customers are flocking to digital media and differentiating themselves is getting harder. Sticking to traditional techniques of marketing their wares at the expense of newer, more cost effective channels (where their customers are congregating), is a paradigm that will be less and less effective.  Experts such as Jeff have been working with growing stable of companies in other regions with compelling results.  The time has arrived for Latin America to begin amassing its long list of regional success stories before others do it for them.

I recently had the pleasure of interviewing Chris Cabrera, CEO of the wildly successful SaaS start-up, Xactly Corporation

It must have been quite an epiphany for Chris Cabrera, CEO of Xactly, when he realized, while employed at another company, that the sales compensation software that he was selling for hundreds of thousands (sometimes millions) of dollars a pop was ripe for innovation.  When he founded Xactly, Software as a Service (SaaS) was just starting to gain respect as a viable business model thanks to the growth of companies such as Salesforce.com.

As I asked Chris about the early years at Xactly, I couldn’t help but draw parallels between that business context and the one that we’re living right now in Latin America. As Chris mentioned, at the outset, data security was a real concern, but as the SaaS model became better understood, conversations with prospects have turned towards the business benefits of adopting the solution.   I’d say that Latin America is still at that initial phase that Chris described in the US when executives still had qualms about hosting their data outside their company walls and we’re probably at an inflection point in Latin America where these fears will begin to dissipate (as they have in other regions).

Xactly has amassed an impressive (and enviable) record with about $60 million in funding dollars.  Their offering is available in 18 languages and they have over 250 customers in almost every continent with 90% using more than one currency.  The company’s offering, Xactly Incent, allows companies to change sales force behavior through adjustments in compensation.  Companies are just now understanding the power of employing specialized software such as this to better manage a key component of their revenue equation: their sales force’s compensation.

As Chris explained many large and mid-size companies, amazingly, still use spreadsheets to manage sales force compensation even though millions of dollars depend on these employees’ performance.  Using Xactly Incent, both employees and managers can view progress on a series of metrics in real-time.  Depending on the company’s objectives, sales force behavior can be managed to increase cross-selling opportunities,  improve collections (important in this economy) or even promote strategic offerings, all managed from the net or from a smart phone.

Even more, activities such as discounting can benefit immensely by giving sales people clear visibility into their compensation structure relative to different discounting scenarios.  This is important, because, for some companies, even one percentage point of a discount can mean the difference between millions of dollars to the bottom line.  With so much hanging in the balance, managing this through spreadsheets makes little sense.

Before the SaaS era came into its own, purchasing, installing and using such specialized software cost an order of magnitude more than it does today and took much longer to achieve its ROI goals.  Today, Xactly can get a customer up and running in a matter of days (or weeks) with substantial increases in profitability in a relatively short period of time at cost an order of magnitude less than what was possible through the traditional software model.

Now, how does all of this impact the Latin American market?  I was pleasantly surprised to hear from Chris that his father, Eduardo Cabrera Micolta, comes from Colombia, South America (as does mine).   Moreover, Latin America is certainly one of the markets where he sees growth potential.   Even though the CRM wave is just hitting in full force here in Latin America, the opportunity to leapfrog competitors and adopt more sophisticated sales force compensation software (such as Xactly’s) is available and ready to be exploited.

In terms of advice for Digital Innovators in Latin America, Chris offered an excellent suggestion.  With players such as Salesforce.com offering incredible cloud computing platforms on which to develop solutions, it behooves companies in the region to offer solutions on such platforms and gain access to an audience of over sixty five thousand potential customers (in Salesforce.com’s case).  Coming from someone who’s at the forefront of software innovation (and Latin American descent to boot), it’s worth heading his advice.